So I finally attempted joining my club net for first time after moving QTH 30 miles south, I now have a very large building to immediately to my north which blocks everything.
Can't get much from 2nd floor so tried from the loft, RX was more reliable but TX still very poor.
Only the VHF guy with the big tower that used to warm my shack reported S1 and just about copied my call sign but everyone else just got my carrier. Looks like simplex back to the club is a no go until I move again. :-(