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Google's emissions are up over 50%, Amazon builds huge data centers powered by 75% natural gas.

Remember all those posts telling us that "AIs climate impact isn't that bad" supported by some really funky math/perspective and/or numbers Sam Altman invented?

Here's the actual impact.

"AI" is a fossil fuel technology.

nytimes.com/2025/06/24/technol

theguardian.com/technology/202

The New York Times · At Amazon’s Biggest Data Center, Everything Is Supersized for A.I.By Karen Weise

@tante
…and they are trying to bring back #nuclear with #AI

While #nuclearenergy is not #fossil it not #green at all - but #colonial , #deadly & totally unfair because, like in AI, the #profits are being privatised, the costs are hitting the whole #society & the #planet

But from the point of view of someone believing in #cybernetics or one of its #TESCREAL grandchildren it is great - because in cybernetics EVERY problem will be solved in "the future" by "technology"

@Katika @tante Everything may be true. But everyone uses AI, nobody wants to do without it. Then I'd rather use nuclear power, which is low in CO2, than coal and gas.

@Kuttenfunker @Katika not "everyone" uses AI. Adaption is way lower than LinkedIn makes you think (because of lack of quality, political reasons, security issues etc.).

"AI" is neither everywhere nor inevitable

Marc

@tante @Katika Let's wait and see. When humanity can be monitored and controlled for the benefit of a few. Smartphones with AI alone should make people sit up and take notice. But noooo Google Pixel 83201, with AI super brain for €1 in the Jamba Spar subscription. And you break down the doors.

@Kuttenfunker @tante @Katika

I believe that it's not an either/or - as in not being able to use AI environmentally friendly and ethically.

AIs specialised on limited tasks can be trained with smaller datasets, we could slow the expansion of data centers and wait till the technology doesn't consume as much power anymore (remember the cooling a computer with less power than your phone needed 10-20 years ago?)

The science is advancing, algorithms are being developed that reduce the needed model size, etc.

But what we see is a "cool" technology under capitalism. Big corporations want to exploit it *fast* and *first*. "The winner takes it all". It's a brutalist approach - just throw size, growth and resources at it.

@Kuttenfunker @tante @Katika And currently it's mostly junk we don't need. I'm sick of getting chat bots thrown at me at every corner.

Engineers who have no idea what they are doing just throw the largest LLMs at things instead of designing task specific software.

Generative AI with its hallucinations is ruining quality everywhere...

But the problem won't go away without some kind of regulation.

@scatty_hannah @Kuttenfunker @tante @Katika

The purpose the Niagara of money being thrown at AI is from the delusion that they will create AGI because the platform billionaires have convinced themselves they’re in a winner take call race, where “win” is totalitarian control of everyone everything in the world.

Each of them say that they are the only one that will use it for good. If you don’t know who or what NRx is it’s time to read a little about it. They are bonkers.